FT/TT meeting minutes January 07th 2014

Minutes

General

• Moderator: Steven Sackett
• Secretary: Mario Calderon
• Participants: Steven Sackett, Suman Ravuri, Mike McKay, Mario Calderon, Victor Perez, Colin Rooney
• Date / Time: Tuesday, January 7th 2014 / 12:00h - 13:12h GMT
• The meeting closed after 1 hour 12 mins

Agenda

1. Minutes of Previous Meeting
2. Actions taken by RM
3. Actions to be taken
4. Misc
5. Next meeting

Minutes of Previous Meeting

• Previous Meeting Minutes

Actions taken by RM

• Integration in Branch of Susanne's changes to Costing Engine
• Migration scripts for some columns are missing; see Issue ADEMPIERE-250

Actions to be taken

• Instances: there is an offer from Paul Aviles
• Mario will contact Tobi and Mark in order to use ADeV's server for community testing
• There is at least two instances needed: one for Postgres and one for Oracle
• A page is needed for documenting the tests. Mario will ask somebody to help.
• Mike will write a document on how to get a JIRA account so non-technical people can follow bug fixing
• Garden World data is quite old. Steven had a suggestion on how to update it. There was no task assigned to somebody.
• Victor will send Mike demo data for Payroll & MFG so he can use it for SAHI testing

Next meeting

• Tuesday, January 14th 2014 / 12:00h. GMT

Log

Following is the meeting log - time is in GMT -6

Monday, 6 January 2014
[16:33:19] Mario Calderón: hi, 

see http://www.adempiere.com/FT/TT_meeting_minutes_December_17th_2013



meet you tomorrow!
[21:23:17] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): ok
Tuesday, 7 January 2014
[06:01:09] suman ravuri: Hi All
[06:01:35] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Hi Suman
[06:01:47] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): happy new year to all...
[06:01:47] suman ravuri: Hi Steve
[06:02:22] Mario Calderón: happy New Year!!
[06:02:39] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): hi Mario
[06:03:52] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): start in 3 minutes?
[06:04:01] suman ravuri: fine
[06:06:00] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): there are 3 persond present .. lets start.
[06:06:39] suman ravuri: same roles?
[06:06:47] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): these are the summary minutes from last meeting
[06:06:50] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): FT/TT meeting minutes December 17th 2013

Minutes



General

Moderator: Steven Sackett

Secretary: Mario Calderon

Participants: Steven Sackett, Suman Ravuri, Mike McKay

Date / Time: Tuesday, Dezember 17th 2013 / 12:00h - 12:54h GMT

The meeting closed after 54 mins

Agenda

Minutes of Previous Meeting

Actions taken by RM

Actions to be taken

Misc

Next meeting

Minutes of Previous Meeting

http://www.adempiere.com/FT/TT_meeting_minutes_December_10th_2013

Actions taken by RM

Costing engine code changes are integrated

Migration scripts for some columns are missing; see https://adempiere.atlassian.net/browse/ADEMPIERE-250

Actions to be taken

Steven to follow up with Nickel Networks deployment opportunity

Suman: review the apparent slowness on the WT machine and advise.

Steven: follow up what Susanne sent recently about CE and make some changes Susanne requested and pass to Suman.

Suman: suggest solution that a user without db access can use to reset costing so docs ca be re-completed after change to costing method

Suman:ML issues that were identified by tony

Misc

Adaxa received Cost Engine code from Susanne. They are working on it.

Where to deploy test instances

ADeV was asked for Hardware; answer expected yet. ADeV also has domains which could be used for testing (e.g. adempiere.com.au and .net.au ..)

Next meeting

Not specified
[06:07:22] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): I suspect not much has happened over the holiday season?
[06:07:36] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Suman, anything to tell us?
[06:08:41] suman ravuri: Costing engine integration is done, Deployed in adempiere.walkingtree.in
[06:09:05] suman ravuri: ML issues are fixed
[06:09:28] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): good to hear
[06:09:53] Mario Calderón: good news
[06:10:21] Mario Calderón: does it include Susanne's changes?
[06:10:42] suman ravuri: yes, we took susanne's changes
[06:11:24] Mario Calderón: ok. Then, Victor has to review it and integrate it into RC
[06:12:23] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): @Mario, what does Victor have to do?
[06:12:40] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): if the code is already integrated by Suman .. except testing?
[06:12:44] suman ravuri: it is already part of rc
[06:13:14] Mario Calderón: oh, then you're right
[06:13:46] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): we talked in last meeting of a way to simplify the testing of all the different costing methods..
[06:14:02] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): "Suman: suggest solution that a user without db access can use to reset costing so docs ca be re-completed after change to costing method

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[06:14:05] suman ravuri: Design I am yet to conclude
[06:14:11] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): ok
[06:14:12] suman ravuri: ran into few isssues
[06:14:23] suman ravuri: with the appraoch I thought
[06:14:29] suman ravuri: need little time
[06:14:42] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): this week?
[06:14:50] suman ravuri: yes
[06:15:27] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): the other issue was getting systems onto Nickel Networks for testing if the ADeV systems were not available to help.
[06:15:43] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Mario, any news on the ADeV resources?
[06:16:11] Mario Calderón: not yet
[06:16:27] Mario Calderón: I will write Tobi and Mark
[06:16:53] Mario Calderón: today and inform you by mail these days
[06:18:16] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): ok.. I had a message from Paul A asking about setting up test systems on Nickel Networks.  I can ask Jacken to follow up with Paul to provide the dns info tomorrow.  Paul asks what we want set up.
[06:18:47] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Is testing normally done separately on postgres and oracle?
[06:19:15] Mario Calderón: yes
[06:19:15] suman ravuri: yes
[06:19:20] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): if so do we need systems running each?
[06:19:30] Mario Calderón: yes
[06:20:13] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): shall we proceed with Paul's offer straight away?
[06:20:28] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): rather than wait to hear from ADeV?
[06:20:41] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): or wait for ADev?
[06:22:01] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): I hope we can get test instances up immediately .. this is taking too long.
[06:24:02] Mario Calderón: I think it can be dealt quickly
[06:24:15] Mario Calderón: we can set this week as limit
[06:24:30] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): ok with me .. Suman?
[06:25:42] suman ravuri: I am fine with Paul's offer
[06:27:10] Colin ROONEY: Happy new year all - great work these last months!  Last time Paul provided us a system it was very fast!  And he had scripts to update to trunk every night - it could only be a plus I would have thought
[06:27:37] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): hi Colin, good to hear from you.
[06:28:10] Mario Calderón: hi Colin, Happy New Year!

Then we go right: we ask ADeV and Paul is a good alternative
[06:28:20] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): ok
[06:28:31] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): any other matters from anyone?
[06:28:55] Mario Calderón: when do we start community testing?
[06:30:03] suman ravuri: as soon as machine is ready, I may need few hours of time to setup the server
[06:30:26] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): I guess there are two parts to that .. non technical people like me are waiting for test instances to be available with reasonable performance so testing is not too painful.  I assume technical people need to be able to install their own version?
[06:30:49] Mario Calderón: if there is a build, yes...
[06:31:14] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Is everything that technically competent people need to set up and build their own instance in place?
[06:31:51] suman ravuri: yes Steve
[06:32:32] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): I assume we need to get the oracle and postgres test instances in place, advertise them and ask for testing?
[06:32:48] Colin ROONEY: is victors github repo now part of the main repo or does one still need to do a little magic to merge them?  I actually tried to create a test env for myself but failed.  That was months ago now mind.
[06:33:15] suman ravuri: Still we need to follow few more steps
[06:33:30] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Is there a document to guide people trying to do what Colin was trying?
[06:33:55] suman ravuri: I have shared one document and Mike prepared another one
[06:33:59] suman ravuri: either would work
[06:34:04] Mario Calderón: we need a page for removing bugs
[06:34:34] Colin ROONEY: I will cehck out out - my system in being repaired right now as soon as I get it ack I will try to create a new development env from scratch and see how I get on
[06:34:37] Colin ROONEY: thx
[06:34:39] Mario Calderón: and for testing modules, like in the last release. I will look at the page
[06:35:24] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): will we be logging bug reports etc on Sourceforge? or do we have to learn something else beforehand?
[06:36:24] Colin ROONEY: I had thought Jira was the logging tool of choice for the project these days?
[06:36:43] suman ravuri: in JIRA, we added few documents for most of features we integrated
[06:37:11] suman ravuri: those documents can be used as reference
[06:37:15] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): how do people without aJira account get one? (I have one)
[06:37:45] suman ravuri: I think they can signup
[06:38:22] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): so its all simple and should cause no problems?  and there will be guidance in our document?
[06:38:51] Mario Calderón: Teo Sarca is our JIRA Admin
[06:39:20] Mario Calderón: this should be straight -if you are a developer, you solve more difficult things
[06:39:41] Victor Perez Juarez: Hi jira is simple
[06:40:03] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): sure, but please consider users who are not technical and who are trying to help with testing .. its not so clear to them.
[06:40:17] Victor Perez Juarez: You can create a user and post
[06:40:40] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): well if it is that simple it should not take much effort to document it.
[06:40:50] Colin ROONEY: :D
[06:40:56] Colin ROONEY: check mate
[06:41:16] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): otherwise you will just have people like me sending emails to Mario and Suman!
[06:41:50] Victor Perez Juarez: So for posting bug i think we need of user name
[06:41:56] Mario Calderón: ok, then somebody has to document how to get a JIRA account
[06:43:23] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): I had only one other thing I wanted to mention.. we are looking at writing a program to update GW data..
[06:43:27] Victor Perez Juarez: Is as any register page
[06:43:34] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): wanted to check people ok with a suggestion
[06:44:26] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): the most recent trx in GW seem to be >8 years old. Plan is to add all years up to say 2015.
[06:44:32] Victor Perez Juarez: About of install of new instance in Paul server not is issue i can
[06:45:12] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): find every date in the system and add 8 years to it.  reset any period_id to the period containing the new date.
[06:45:22] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): delete the ancient years and periods.
[06:45:49] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): as it would be a java program it would update either database type.
[06:46:09] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): it would be a program not a migration script.  any other suggestions?
[06:46:51] Mario Calderón: I would support Steven's suggestion
[06:47:45] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): question is whether this can be used to update the seed database or whether everyone who wants it should just run the program?
[06:48:29] Victor Perez Juarez: So more easy is use applicarion dictonary we need read All tablea with a date and add year a and this for all
[06:49:33] Victor Perez Juarez: When we finish only export new seed
[06:49:33] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): pls explain that more..
[06:50:34] Mario Calderón: can this be managed at a technical level? The goal is to have the GW data from 2013 backwards, isn't it?
[06:50:44] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): yes.
[06:51:26] Victor Perez Juarez: We need suman make a main class that read All applicarion dictonary and found All entity that management dates
[06:51:55] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): what I was being warned about was new installs can just take the new seed database all nicely updated .. what about existing sites.. wont they need either a program or a script to achieve same?
[06:52:30] suman ravuri: I can the program in place
[06:52:38] suman ravuri: have
[06:52:50] Victor Perez Juarez: Then can use Genéric class Po to read All récord for each entity and add 10 year
[06:53:00] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): so, do we continue with what we started?
[06:54:13] Mario Calderón: we were at JIRA
[06:54:13] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): or does someone else want the task?
[06:54:51] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): and?
[06:55:10] Mario Calderón: did we finish JIRA?
[06:55:31] Mario Calderón: sb had to document how to get an account...
[06:56:07] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): any other matters to be raised?
[06:56:46] Michael McKay: Hi all,  I can document the testing process and JIRA in the wiki.
[06:57:18] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Hi Mike .. that would help people like me.
[06:58:14] Mario Calderón: hi Mike, Happy New Year
[06:58:31] Victor Perez Juarez: I have create demo data for my new créate functionality
[06:58:55] Victor Perez Juarez: Payroll & mfg
[06:59:46] Victor Perez Juarez: Think that we need got other functionality
[06:59:59] Michael McKay: @Victor, can you send me rough info of how these processes work? I'd like to use SAHI to test them as well.
[07:00:29] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Was payroll added to the 380 roadmap?
[07:00:56] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): I thought it would added after 380?
[07:02:27] Victor Perez Juarez: Mi idea is creste ademiere tv Chanel in vimeo for now in spanish and Mario can help with translation it is a good way of document add to wiki
[07:03:35] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): so, no new payroll functionality being added to 380 then?
[07:03:49] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Suman?
[07:04:01] Victor Perez Juarez: @Steven payroll always is but not data demo
[07:04:41] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): your plan is to add demo data, not additional code and functionality?
[07:05:34] Victor Perez Juarez: Yes only data demo
[07:05:56] suman ravuri: I too have same understanding
[07:05:59] Victor Perez Juarez: Of people as me for an demo info
[07:06:20] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): demo data is always good to have.
[07:06:53] Victor Perez Juarez: But we need créate for libero and other new functionality
[07:06:54] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): Any more matters to raise?
[07:07:42] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): other than payroll what other demo data needs adding?
[07:08:08] Victor Perez Juarez: @Mike we can create a document scrip and use this to creste to créate sahi test
[07:08:23] Victor Perez Juarez: Cash flow
[07:08:33] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): ok
[07:08:39] Victor Perez Juarez: Forecast
[07:08:39] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): This message has been removed.
[07:08:59] Victor Perez Juarez: Crm
[07:09:13] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): thanks
[07:09:39] Victor Perez Juarez: Mfg for Both approach
[07:09:57] Victor Perez Juarez: WM
[07:10:00] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): .. lot of work
[07:10:49] Mario Calderón: so, I hope next meeting we can -at last- officially start testing
[07:11:45] Mario Calderón: GTG, bye people
[07:12:02] Mario Calderón: I will write the minutes
[07:12:08] suman ravuri: bye
[07:12:14] Steven Sackett (Adaxa): bye..
[07:12:24] Victor Perez Juarez: Bye